In this week’s episode Jules & Corinna connect with a maven of social audio, Dayo Akinrinade to talk about the power of using one’s voice to connect with other people in real time on social audio applications. They discuss the power of mentorship and how social audio has revolutionized connection as people seek guidance while others offer support. The two-sided exchange offered within social audio is nothing short of revolutionary!

About Dayo Akinrinade, Founder & CEO of Wisdom

• Dayo started as an IT Management Consultant at Accenture and Deloitte
• Then, driven by the lack of diversity in London’s tech ecosystem, she joined the founding team of OneTech, London’s largest diversity in startups programme, backed by the JP Morgan Chase Foundation.
• Subsequently, after spotting a gap in the market, she went on to found Africlick, a cultural dating app targeting 1 billion Africans globally. Africlick has been mentioned on BBC Africa, BBC London Radio and Huffpost.
• Dayo holds a B.Sc. in Computer Science from the University of Manchester and a M.Sc. in Technology from University College London.
• Dayo was named 2021 Women In Dating Powerbook, celebrating the 20 most inspirational and influential women in the dating industry
• Dayo was named in the Financial Times Top 100 Most Influential Ethnic Minority Leaders in Tech. 

Wisdom Socials

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• https://www.facebook.com/joinWISDOMapp
• https://www.linkedin.com/company/joinwisdomapp/
• https://www.wisdom.audio/ 

Dayo’s Socials

• https://twitter.com/DayoAKK
• https://www.instagram.com/dayo.akk/ 
• https://www.linkedin.com/in/dayo-akinrinade-6102762/

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Unleash The Power of Social Audio and Mentorship to Elevate Your Life with Dayo Akinrinade, Founder & CEO of Wisdom

Wisdom is a women-owned social audio application that truly inspires us. You have harnessed the power of social audio in a new one-to-one way, democratizing mentorship for everybody. How did you even think to bring mentorship to social audio? Because you certainly had to think fast and act fast.

I think absolutely. Where the founding mission of wisdom is I do want to democratize access to mentorship and I would say it came together.

It’s been a theme throughout my career. Particularly in my early career, a lack of mentorship. So within my journey, as a woman in tech, because I have worked in technology throughout my career, I was never able to fully access the mentoring that I needed, because I was specifically looking for a female mentors.

I wanted to speak to women in tech who. So, yes, the head of me who had the experience or to put it another way, the wisdom, I think it also would have been helpful if I had been able to reach out to women of color within my position who had maybe faced some of the situations that I faced that were very unit specific to my sort of intersectionality and diversity.

And even though I worked in very large unit global companies, Those mentors were, were just not available. So I would say that’s like one theme where mentoring has been center of mind. For me also, I spent a period of time, uh, on a program in the UK city and startups program. In fact, I think today that is the UK is large diversity and startups program.

And one of the key questions that the team needed to answer within the program was why is it that. When we look at the profile of founders who are basing investment for their startups, there’s an under-representation of certain groups, particularly women, people of color, and people who don’t have degrees idea, being that anyone should be able to start a startup and raise investment, whether you’re a woman, you know, whether you, whether or not you have a degree, it shouldn’t necessarily be essential, but that wasn’t being reflected in the new.

One of the key findings that came out to the program was a lack of access to mentorship, the hypothesis or the discovery was that a broad spectrum of people wants to start businesses. Inclusive or, you know, women, people from different socioeconomic backgrounds. However, what we found was that there was a lack of access to mentorship.

So to give, give you like a quick case study, if there’s a founder who perhaps they want to build something, a solution for the restaurant industry, It’s pretty essential that as an entrepreneur, while you at the idea stage, one of the first things you need to do is to speak with experienced people within the restaurant industry and validate your hypothesis.

Right? Because as a founder, you’ve got an idea in your head of this is going to be the thing they need, but when you actually start interviewing the restaurant around. They have a whole other perspective in terms of, you know, this is a solution that I would be willing to pay for. This is the problem that’s keeping me up at night.

So in essence, you know, to kind of summarize that, we found that one of the key barriers to accessing entrepreneurship. Was a lack of mentorship because oftentimes the mentors you can access are dependent on your environment. You know, what kind of jobs do your parents do? What do your neighbors do? If I want to be a lawyer, but some people with their life situations, they don’t have lawyers within their community or their family.

And then. We found people were resorting to LinkedIn and we discovered pretty quickly, uh, LinkedIn for the mentoring. So if you go on LinkedIn and what we found was people on the program, this is something I’ve experienced as well on the receiving and people may, and you may find this too. If you go on your LinkedIn.

You may have a whole lot of messages in your inbox and your DMS that you’ve just probably never answered. And some of them will be people who were saying, Hey, I’m interested in doing what you do. I would love to ask you a few questions, but LinkedIn, I think is designed for. For you to connect with people you already know.

I think that’s not really designed for cold introductions. And so, you know, in essence, part of what we’re addressing, and I think one of the key trends with wisdom, it’s, it’s the unbundling of LinkedIn and saying within wisdom, can we have an audio community of experts, coaches, mentors, but also just really helpful people.

Who want to give back? So they’ve come to the platform with great intention in terms of giving back. Now, of course, alongside the living, you know, the giving back, you know, from a creative perspective or a business owner perspective, there is a commercial reality as well, right? Because in essence, we can look at wisdom as a two-sided marketplace, uh, on one hand as the knowledge seeker, you know, which I’ve spoken about.

But then on the flip side, there’s the ex. Well, the mentor, or we could call them the content creator and from their perspective, you know, I think for them it’s a bit around building their personal brand, building that influence leading with advice. But of course, as we know, Uh, oftentimes when you give great advice that builds your funnel and that, and that leads to sales, um, and even their wisdom is early days, right.

We just launched, uh, October 20, 21. It’s just a few months, but you know, I’m pleased to see that we are already seeing. Testimonials from wisdom who were saying I’ve closed to new clients through wisdom, you know, I’m generating new business and, and this is taking this approach of just leading with advice class.

I love that we spoke about democratizing access just a little bit as we opened this conversation. I personally was invited to be one of your early mentors on wisdom when you were still in, test mode or beta. Unfortunately I’m an Android. So that kind of kept me from being able to take the leap.

What I will say though, is that I heard from many people in my community that were working as coaches or who had some wisdom to share that they wanted to give out to the world, especially during this time of COVID, there was one even ADA, napalm, who is somebody who specifically. Supports people through difficult changes. That’s one of her specialties. She says change is inevitable. We all have to experience it. So she chose to take some of the programs that she typically would charge for and start to put them out on wisdom, just to bring it out to a bunch of people who might be really thinking about what they needed to shift and change in their lives during this really incredible pandemic that has altered so much of what we’ve seen. I’m also connected to other women who are trying to serve the same need, but in different ways, one example is own trail, which is headed by Rebekah Bastian. She had come out of working in technology as well, but in the kind of the real estate Zillow marketplace, right. And now has her own company, helping women blaze their own trail and connect with one another and put up help beacons when they need it. And things like that seek out mentors or offer themselves as mentors. So they’re doing a more kind of what I would say, traditional social media approach, as opposed to the audio.

What made you choose to attack this from the audio perspective, as opposed to one of these more traditional social media platforms?

No, that’s perfect. So I will say. So from working on this one, tech diversity in tech and diversity, and, uh, starts upon this funding program. We try to one week, uh, the program, uh, we did, we set up a mentoring work stream as a part of the program.

So we identified a need for mentoring. So we set up a mentoring. What. And the individuals who were running the mentoring work scheme found out within a few months that mentoring programs are labor-intensive and they have a high rate of failure because it’s the two-sided marketplace challenge. Where on one side, you’re recruiting the mentors on the other side, you’re recruiting the mentees.

Then we had some match. Then they had to schedule the first meeting we had to follow up. Did the meeting happen? Then we had to follow up. Was it successful? I you’re going to meet again. And then if it wasn’t successful, it was back to the drawing board. Once social audio technology became accessible through the mobile.

That was where I saw an opportunity to. To connect social audio to mentoring. I also believe with audio, it is quite authentic. I think it allows people to be vulnerable because you can, you can read, you can read the emotion in somebody’s voice and also hearing them. I also am a fan of that. It removes the visual.

So you can really focus in on what the other person is saying. I think also removing the visual, it removes some of the superficial, I think it would move some of the judgments. Sometimes it helps people set aside insecurities or in adjust the overload and lets people be themselves. Also, I think what, what was key and where, you know, with social audio as well, Y Y Y felt it was the right medium it’s in wisdoms, what the one-to-one formats through social audio, which I know is something quite unique to the platform, like, you know, social audio, it’s, it’s, um, it’s a massive space it’s evolving into.

So, you know, it’s an multi-billion dollar category, but in particular, what is unique about wisdom is that. All the conversations are one-to-one that can earlier, there’d be two people speaking at the same time and everyone else is listening. And I think from a mentorship perspective, that was very, very heat to me.

Cause I think one-to-one. Allow you to go deep and really get to know the person as opposed to, you know, what one to many is. And then I think one other aspects of audio that I think really helped that was key was the fact that all the conversations on wisdom are recorded by default. So it means that the conversation or this mentoring session or this knowledge exchange session, it lives on.

Beyond the moment it’s recorded down, which in turn helps them also build that professional profile because you have a home on wisdom now with your best talks, like the best of your audio, but it also means that anyone else can tap into that wisdom at any time. And in particular, in the, in the beta stage, some of you, you know, some of it, I mean, we’ve had amazing testimonials, but a couple of coaches identified and they said, well, my mission is to help as many.

Even though I can go live on wisdom, right. And I can speak and help people that talk is saved forever. So anyone can playback and talk afterwards. And still benefit. And they said I’m helping people while I sleep, which, you know, I kind of really resonated with. And so, yeah, I think, um, that was the idea around social audio.

And I think possibly the last thing I would say is the, there’s the drop in. Element of social audio, which I think can remove or sometimes of mentoring it’s the back and forth. And the scheduling are you free when you freed it. But I love the unit with wisdom. You can just open up the app at any time and there’s going to be either a library of pre-recorded conversations, but that there’s always going to be live talks and people you can just drop into and speed.

I’m glad you’re finding the features to be of use, but I think absolutely. And that was a request from our early podcasts to come. We have a lot of book passes on the wisdom app and I’m going to hold my hand up and say that wasn’t something I thought about. It was feedback from the early beta group.

I’d love wisdom that you can actually time your guests. So if you want to keep the clip going, this was genius. I’m sure it was your idea. Die out like the five minute, 10 minute, or you can have an hour long guest, but that was, I think one of the amazing things and the other amazing thing as a podcast, or as you can re purpose the content, because it’s all recorded MP3, download it and wallah, you have a podcast. If you have. Which is brilliant.

They said this could be a really easy way for me to create podcost content, because if I want to have a guest, they just have to download the app. So it was actually their feedback and a request. And we said, you know, why not? It makes sense. You can repurpose your own content after all it is the creative content as well.

And you may have noticed we’ve also, we also now have a feature with a high fidelity. Recording. So you can get just a really good quality in terms of the audio. And it’s something that you can toggle the option on or off. But I think also just, I think just removing some of the barriers to, to content creation.

Um, and then in terms of removing barriers, I was going to say it’s a Corrina on the Android, apologies for inviting you early and not being on Android, but we are working on it within the next few months and definitely say. The first half of this year, we should be live with that.

I will admit I broke down and went out and got myself an iPad so that I could also get on clubhouse a little bit earlier. I just find that the audio quality on my iPad, which is two generations old isn’t as good as what you would get on the iPhone. So as a podcaster, I didn’t feel like the quality I was getting out of. It could be something I would publish. So we’ll get there and I can’t wait. I really am chomping at the bit for it myself,

Corinna tell Dayo our love story and how we met.

So this is just a, a little bit of a funny story. I was going to graduate school for my MBA. And after 20 years of working success successfully in building brands, and some of the younger students in my class were like, you have a podcast, you should be on clubhouse. And I said, clubhouse what’s club.

And the, um, essentially helped me like over a zoom. With their iPhone and myself, like do this whole test where we tried to access them on my potential listeners and talk about social impact and sustainability. So I got the clubhouse bug. I went out and got the iPad because I couldn’t justify replacing my $1,000, you know, Samsung phone.

And so I just went ahead and said, okay, great. I’ll go ahead and do this. Get the iPad, get on clubhouse within a couple months of being on there. I bet Julia. And so she became kind of this amazing collaborator in the space. What I loved about her was that I really felt like she was always coming from a place of good and, and no judgment and really wanting to put herself out there and support other people in the community and a really genuine way.

And if it weren’t for social audio, we would probably never have met she’s in Chicago, I’m in California and now we’re business partners. It’s kind of amazing.

Well, I think, absolutely. And to your point, I think there is something about social audio being a Leffler. I feel it brings people together in a way that I haven’t seen with any other platforms.

Like you could have potentially been in the same Facebook group or on a Twitter thread. So she knows it. You’re speaking, writing, you’re hearing each other, you’re hearing the energy, the intention, and you’re like, yo, you know, I connect with that person. You know, I could work with that person. So I think it’s great.

So social audio, I mean the power of social social audio is. Exponential the growth is exponential. How were you able to take this idea and to make it into this thing? You made an idea, a thing, which I know a lot of our listeners they’re entrepreneurs, they’re podcasters, they’re people with dreams. How, like, how did you do that?

I mean, that’s bold number one and it’s brave and it’s also so ingenuity. In terms of taking it just from an idea to a real, real thing that people you’re changing people’s lives Dayo literally,

Yeah, I think possible. Thank you for that. Um, I would say, uh, first of all, I like to create I’m happiest when I’m creating and I, I have a question in mind, so.

Really, I would say 90% of the time, if I’m interfacing with something, my brain is thinking how I would like to improve it or how I would like it to be. So it’s a leaning towards creating and particularly on, on wisdom, I would say, uh, because wisdom is my, it’s not my first startup. So I think it also helps on the journey with wisdom that, uh, my previous startup, uh, you know, which I also still work on is a dating app called Africa click.

And that was actually my first startup. That was the startup, but I left corporate to build. And Africa is a, it’s a dating app. But particularly focused on the global African community. So globally people of African descent. So very much a cultural place saying that, you know, there’s like over a billion people in, particularly on the continent of Africa and building a particular cultural solution for that group.

I think, you know, it helps with those that I had experienced and under track record in technology. And then also I think that I, I genuinely, I genuinely enjoy creating and I enjoy. Creating products to your point, jewels that he pulled actually going to use and interact with. That was something I always had a big desire to do possibly because I started my career in enterprise technology, primarily working on financial services projects.

And so what I found there was I could be on a project at a big bank. I would work on maybe. Uh, mortgage intermediary sales system. And I could work on a mortgage system for a year, but I would never meet the. Customer who was going to take the mortgage. I would never meet the broker. He was going to sell the mortgage because I was buried in a bank somewhere, looking at documents and specifications of saying, this is what the mortgage buyer wants.

This is what the broker wants, but I really want it to like speak to those people and connect the person to the technology that was being built. But that absolutely. Was just not a, not a possibility as a consultant, that, that wasn’t my role. And you know, that wasn’t my role in my place. And of course being a bigger bank it’s the product is not that consumer led.

So I think that was also partially a desire within me where, when I started to look at, okay, what do I want to do? Something that was key for me was I said, I want to work on something. You know, we can be building them within a month, it’s in the hands of the user or customer or my case wisdom. And then I actually want to be able to speak to the wisdom and be like, Hey, how is it?

What can we change? And have that really tight feedback loop of always, you know, improving our products?

It’s always hard. I think, as a woman in tech to get the attention of investors and make sure that they’re on board with you too, in the same way, the statistics here in the United States are that less than 2% of venture capital goes to female led organizations.

And then if you tried to look at female, And also black or African-American or what not a minority led at the same time that that statistic gets dramatically lower. And so I wondered what your experience was like, and if you had any wisdom as a wisdom or to share with all of us.

Yeah. So I would say. It was, how could I put it to your point?

I think the numbers speak for themselves in terms of it being a challenge. And I’m going to agree with, you know, I, I agree with the numbers. I think of course, sometimes particularly as a woman, as a black woman as well, oftentimes it’s hard to know when a goal is a challenge. Sometimes it’s hard to know, is this a challenge because.

I need to get, get my proposition together more and make it stronger. Or is it a challenge because I’m being underestimated because of how I present. And that for me, I think is one of those things you just never have an answer. So I would say part of the process, I think, which you knew was the challenge for me, was learning to differentiate between.

Does this particular aspect of the proposition need to be stronger? Or is it just that I’m seen as a high risk investment? Because I didn’t fit the archetype of what this individual, you know, believes it’s going to be a successful founder and company builder. So I would say that, that, that is one big challenge because oftentimes you, you don’t just get to shortcut.

Oh, it’s because I’m a woman, you have to think, could it be better? You know, you know, does the bunny needs to be higher? So I think it takes a lot of judgment. I think it’s important also to have. A really strong vision. And then you’re connecting with investors that are aligned with the vision. Like it helps for me, I made, I made a lot of strong connections on clubhouse and that was in the moment and it worked because they were also using clubhouse.

So they bought into the vision of social. Understanding. Right. A lot of us were there at the beginning, you know, clubhouse was that maybe we were hearing about a few other emerging platforms, but it was them also understanding that social media was going to have many different dimensions. So as which we then went to see, right, so companies like.

Spotify Facebook has, we know Twitter links hen you know, the big tech giants are going to have integrated audio in, but then there’s also going to be standalone audio solutions, for example, like wisdom. So I think, you know, it’s around also painting a vision and then finding people. Who believe in that market, they need to believe, believe in the market that you’re building for a believer that it’s fast-growing belief that it’s new.

And then, you know, incidentally, I would say something else that really helped the narratives. There’s a journalist called, uh, Josh Constantine. I believe if he has, whether it’s a podcast or. Clubhouse remove thing. And in the early days of clubhouse, he did an interview with MATSOL the founder of Facebook and it was the founder of Spotify.

And can’t recall it was 1 0 1 other founder and other social thunder as well. And they just spoke about the future. Social networking, but particular social audio and cause a lot of people, I think you probably remember when mark Zuckerberg came onto the club house, like it was a big deal kind of like in the tech world or whatnot.

And so while mark was on clubhouse, he said that there’s something interesting in. And then he said that there are going to be multiple different formats of audio. He said like once to many, many to one. And then he also said once a one there’s something interesting there. Now it was already had the idea who wisdom at the time, but that was a really useful quotes or kind of be able to take back to investors and say, Hey, well, soccer bug thing.

There’s going to be something interesting in one-to-one social audio. So yeah, hopefully that gives you some color, but, you know, I do think absolutely that industry has some ways to go in terms of inclusion. And I think, um, giving different profiles of founders a chance because we’re going to build different companies and we’re going to build different companies from different perspectives.

And, you know, and I would say these things are becoming more. Potent to consumers. As we know, as we look back to like gen Z, like it’s totally important to them. So, so yeah, with crowdfunding as well, I think, um, something I’ve, I’ve just gone at informationally is that crowdfunding can also be great as a way to top up your round.

So as a startup, maybe when you have about 60%, 70% committed, you then go and crowdfund that way, you know, you’re going to make your target. Because you’ve already got the pre-commitment in the backend. And I think that’s something that when people look a crowdfunding from the outside, it’s not so apparent, but that’s like one of the inside of things that they do.

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Well, thank you for the perspective. I also have, ruled out crowdfunding in a few cases, I’ve worked in the natural products industry and they don’t, they don’t support health products like that. You would consume if it’s a health product that you wear. It’s a great place to, I think, go and get some funds, especially if you have something truly.

You are leading the charge, not only for a younger generation, but for women and black women who, it seems like a dream, it seems like it is something that can never be attainable and you’re doing it. You’re rocking it. You’re amazing. And you’re building this empire, if you will, on the foundation of not only your wisdom, but on the wisdom of others and your advice to those people that are wanting to do something as bold and brave as what you have done.

My advice would be you don’t have to do it alone. Uh, maybe initially you might be alone because sometimes at the early stage, you have this crazy idea and other people around you, they might not get it yet. And then in that stage, you just need to believe in your idea and you need to prove it and you need to build, then I would say, see how mental.

You don’t just need one mentor. Some people think that it’s good to have a variety of people that you can call on for different reasons. I would also advise, ensure you do the work yourself. Do the self-learning maximize the resources that you have available to you initially. Even if that, even if that is like a one hour immersion, like tutorial on YouTube or something like that, do that fast and get pre.

So that when you do then go to seek out your mentors, mentors respond well, oftentimes when they can see you’ve done the ground work, right. And you’ve put forth effort. So rather than just, can I pick your brain about. You’re saying, Hey, I’m interested in a, I’ve already done X, Y, Z. And this is the part that, you know, and then you’re like, oh, this person has put forth effort themselves.

Therefore I’m interested to mentor them. Um, and of course, coming back to wisdom, as I’m going to say with them is a great place to find mentors because it’s an audio community of mentors. So you understand that anybody you meet on wisdom. It’s already that to connect people and to have live conversations.

Um, and, and, you know, to your point, um, One of my goals with, with wisdom, one of my articles and wisdom, you know, I want to be able to say we’ve mentored a million people. We’ve helped a million people. We’ve helped people kind of level up their lives and make those transitions because, you know, I often find when I read back on people’s origin stories, sometimes they have.

Catalyst moments or pivotal moments. And oftentimes I find this moments, they come from mentoring or for a point of realization and insight of new information and something clicks. And they’re like, Right. I’m going to do, and you know, I’m going to pivot, I’m going to, you know, do it this way. So, so yeah, I would say mentoring.

Yeah. I love

I just have to say really quickly that Corinna and I always talk about the power of one person that believes in you, that one person that’s used that gem or sparkle or shine in you. It can change people’s lives and. As a matter of fact, one of our friends, she’s a, she’s a Femcaster. Her name is Marcela Gonzalez. She’s on wisdom all the time. And you came into her room and she called me right after. She was like, oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Diageo was in my room. And she’s like, she’s so amazing. So I said, I’m going to tell her how amazing first of all, Marcela is amazing and if I’m caster, but she is taking it by storm using her voice, she started a podcast. She’s finding this confidence and strength within her. And I’m sure part of it has to do with wisdom. So if you see her on wisdom again, tell her I said, hi. I love it. She’ll she’ll freak out, but that’s it, that was really a powerful story because she was more than thrilled.

Amazing. No, I’ve spoken to her.

She’s awesome. And yet she still, I mean, we have such amazing community, but she’s a great member of the community.

The other things I wanted to piggyback on as just the selection of your menu. And mentors, one of the things I’ve found to be really, really good advice from another entrepreneur was that they suggested that you think about your mentors, almost like you would think about a board. So if you had somebody who really understood, for instance, finances, because it was filling a gap in your knowledge, and you wanted to have somebody that you could have on the shoulder and say, Hey, I’m building my business, but I just don’t, I’m like a little stuck and here’s why I’m stuck. This is my stage. And can, can I get some support from you? Think about that and then have somebody that you really like for their marketing prowess that you connect with from time to time. And so you’re kind of in your mind building kind of the board for what your trajectory is. And then at some point in the future, who knows they could be people that actually do come on and work with you to grow and support, you know, a new company, a new venture or something along those.

I think that’s great advice. So my hope the listeners are taking notes. I think absolutely. As she said, if you have think of it as your beer, your board of advisors and having coverage in different areas, I think that’s great. And, and to your point around them, oftentimes they say even if with fundraising, even if you want money, they say, ask for advice for.

And then that can then lead to money. So sometimes, maybe another tip for people listening in, particularly if you are at the early stage, right. A pre-revenue. You haven’t proved much cheaper investing in you and the idea, and it can be a good thing to request a meeting. Hey, I’m building this. I see you’re interested in this area.

I would just love you a bit of your time to tell you about what I’m building. And then you’ll find from that first conversation, the people who get really into it, and they’re like, oh, have you thought about this, this, this, this, this. I think oftentimes enough, but that fund raising tip is ask for advice.

So if there’s somebody who do you think might be a great investor, especially if you are at the early stage of your venture and you’re, pre-revenue, maybe you’re even pre-product you could ask for a meeting and let them know what you’re building and say, I would love to get your feedback. And oftentimes what can happen is over a series of feedback, conversations, this expo, we’ll get to see that you are coachable.

They get to see how you operate. They get to see your markers in progressive a time, right? Because something else is, you know, they say investors invest in lines, not dots. They want to see a trend. And then it’s that trend that creates the foam. Oh, if I don’t get it now, you know, am I going to, I don’t want to miss out.

So I think just another good tip is, uh, leading with advice for us. And that that can oftentimes tend them to investments and deepest. Well,

I love that. And what I will say is I can’t wait until wisdom is on Android, so it’ll make my life a little easier. And I wondered if you, just, before we wrap, I’m hoping that you can share a little bit about where your roadmap is. Where are you heading from here from apple to Android desktop,

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Sure. Great questions. So in terms of wisdoms roadmap, uh, she said currently apple Android, absolutely. Within a few months. And then aside from that, if I look at the features, what we’re developing, cause that’s, you know, another area, our next set of features are very much focused around building interconnectedness within the wisdom community.

So features like private messaging cause. Our community bonds message each other offline starch feature. We also have some features around engagements that we’ve recently released live reactions, which I think is, you know, I think we’re one of the first in social audio to do that. So if you’re listening in on a talk, maybe you don’t want to pop up as a guest, you’re listening, but you can.

Send like a round of applause. So you can send a hearts, like you can send just like an emergency, so you can participate in the talk without necessarily going live. And then it also means that the talker, the, you know, the content creator, you know, they’re getting, they’re getting feedback. We also have we’re introducing the lights.

To the platform as well. So as a user, you can like a talk, but we’re also showing all of your lights talks on your profiles. What it means, for example, it’s maybe if I go to Corina and I see the talks, Corrina has liked, well, maybe I’m going to like this tool because you know, I like Karena. So, you know, it’s more than just sort of the likes of the creators to get the feedback that could be.

The need recommendations as well. And then, you know, when they’re too long, I mean, we’re also in, it sounds like a small improvement, but we’re increasing the length of the talk titles. And I know myself as somebody who creates talks, that’s like that niggle, you know, sometimes you can never get enough characters when you’re starting up a talk.

So we are increasing the character limit. Just really working on the user experience so that it can be that when you sign into wisdom and Wiener, you’re interested in these topics because they create great contents in the area you’re interested in. So that gives you an idea in terms of what’s coming.

Yep. It certainly does. Julie. I think we need to try doing some of our one-on-one when we are just recording our own episodes. Let’s do it. Let’s do it on wisdom and see how it goes.

I love it. Yeah. I learned so much watch when I listen in or jump in and have those really more intimate conversations. I like those features. You’re using your voice to impact. The world Corrina let’s do it girl!

Okay. So we’re going to invite our audience to come kick it with us on your platform. And we have two words we’d like to ask our guests to say, and that’s simply KICK IT!

We’ll say it together as we’re going to kick it on wisdom.

We can try. We’ve never done that, but let’s do it in three, two, one.

KICK IT!

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Other Podcasts & Resources Mentioned:

Care More Be Better: Social Impact – Sustainability – Regeneration – https://caremorebebetter.com

Rebekah Bastian of Own Trail on Care More Be Better: https://caremorebebetter.com/blaze-your-own-trail-with-rebekah-bastian/

Obsessed With Humans On The Verge Of Change – https://www.theobsessedpodcast.com